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Suggestion http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=27821899 Comments: "Port-au-Prince is no more a dark place than any other city. Their are good people there and bad people there. Just because people are not Christians does not mean that they suffer from spiritual darkness. In fact most Vodouisants are also Catholic. I am sorry to hear that there are child prostitutes in Haiti. We also have people who are prostituting children in the United States as well In fact they had this little historical event called slavery were little black children were routinely raped, molested and abused by white slave masters for well over 210 years. Even some of our United States Presidents fathered children by female slaves who really did not have much to say in the matter of who they had sex with. This was not even child prostitution it was plain and simple white male, supposely Christians raped whatever little black girl they wanted to. The intense "urban poverty" that described was created largely by white christians who forcibly took slaves to Islands like Haiti and did not pay slaves ever. If you go to any American city you will encounter drunks and homeless people and even some drunk and homeless people. In fact many of the American Born Again Christians were drunks, prostitutes, drug addicts, and some even child molesters; before they were saved by Jesus and forgiven for all their filthy sins. I have to clubs all over the United States were drunk people urinate outside under the auspices that no one will see them do this. Although Christians have tried to make might right; killing anyone who is not Christians in their "Holy Wars." There are still other Faiths in the world; such as Voodoo. In Voodoo you do not have to give up your other religious beliefs; because Voodoo is an ancient, spiritual tolernt religion; it predates Christianity and goes back to the God Vondu and Nzambi in Africa. Vondu is were the word Vodou came from. You at certain Junctures in the United States you can also hear lively wild music, chanting, drums, screeching guitars, and a cacophony of sound; they call them ROCK BANDS, OR RAP GROUPS! Most Cobblestone is very old and it has some kind of dirt on it. If you go look at Cobblestone in America I am sure you will find some dirt and grass growing between the Cobblestone. People are not "pitiful" just because they do not think and believe the way you do. You are such a self righteous, back sliding Christian I feel sorry for you. I bet known of those pitiful people were looking at you, judging you, are looking down on you; which makes them more Christ like than what you appear to be. In the United States they also have wild parties and near naked if not naked people dancing around; they call the "Strip Clubs" and it has nothing to do with religion; just women selling a look at their bodies for money. They also have bloody dead chickens at poultry factories in America. As a Christian, you should have on the whole armor of God and should be able to rebuke or handle anything. If someone is truly possessed by the devil any average Voodoo believer can usually cast a demon pretty much the way you Christians read about the way Jesus cast the legion of demons out of the man in the bible. Vodouisants are Catholics and do not worship the devil. They just mix in old African Vestitudes with their worship of God. Most of these are in the bible. In fact I remember reading in the bible were lambs were sacrificed, the flesh and blood son of God was sacrificed and another prophet was even asked to sacrifice his son; but at the last minute God provided a different sacrifice. The whole reason why you take communion at any Christian Church; is because Jesus was the "human sacrifice for sins of the world" so that Christians may have salvation and go to Heaven. Before that Christians were destined for Hell. Which by the way is not the ancient Aramaic place called Sheol; that Abel died and went to and whose blood called to God from the ground the same way Vodouisants call to God for assistance in their daily lives. I call to venerate and show reverence for nature, the LWA (holy Angels). In fact the Vodouisants still use the same word "calling" to describe this process as it was described how the blood of Abel called to God from the ground. This proves to a point that our blood has some spiritual qualities that can speak to God even after our death. The Vodouisants beleive that this spiritual quality that is well documented in the bible when the blood of Abel calls to God for help is actually the LWA that are carried with us through life in our blood and our heads. I strongly suggest you do a bit more reading of the bible and a lot less judging everybody else. Respectfully, Minister Libby Hodges Thank you for your comments. The piece was written from my perspective when I was 20 years old. I am 55 now, so today we are talking about a very much different Haiti than thirty-five years ago. My family has worked in Haiti since 1967, building schools and feeding rural children every day. There are thousands of Haitian men and women who have graduated from our rural schools – and graduated healthy – who have been able to make a living outside the rural communities or in the US – and probably millions of dollars have gone back to help those families through their labor. Let me address a couple points below. Comments: "Port-au-Prince is no more a dark place than any other city. I am supposing you have spent time in Port and know the incredible poverty, racism, murder, destruction by natural elements, and starvation there. Yes, we have those here too, but we do not have the desperation that those people do. Their are good people there and bad people there. Just because people are not Christians does not mean that they suffer from spiritual darkness. In fact most Vodouisants are also Catholic. When I speak of Christians, I probably meant not to include the Catholicism of Haiti. There is not much about Catholicism there that is Messianic or biblical. Like voodoo, it is based on spiritism, superstition, and the veneration of demonic spirits. I am also assuming you have been an eye-witness to the festivals of voodoo and are familiar with the practices of Catholicism there. What you said is true – there is no difference. I would never consider myself a Christian as defined by the reactionary and ill-informed American left wing. I am sorry to hear that there are child prostitutes in Haiti. We also have people who are prostituting children in the United States as well In fact they had this little historical event called slavery were little black children were routinely raped, molested and abused by white slave masters for well over 210 years. Yes, I agree entirely. Even some of our United States Presidents fathered children by female slaves who really did not have much to say in the matter of who they had sex with. Yes, you are absolutely right. This was not even child prostitution it was plain and simple white male, supposely Christians raped whatever little black girl they wanted to. What you describe is definitely not prostitution. It is an abuse of power. It is my hope that these people, whether they consider themselves Christians or not, will be resurrected, severely judged, and ultimately destroyed. The intense "urban poverty" that described was created largely by white christians who forcibly took slaves to Islands like Haiti and did not pay slaves ever. In Haiti, it was different on this account. If the ‘master’ made children with any slaves, those children would have full inheritance rights. That is why there is a stronger racial tension there than here now. The aristocratic inheritors are of a lighter color due to their mixing, and still have huge money. Take the Duvaliers, for instance. These people live like kings while the ‘black’ Haitians, those who have no such inheritance, have nothing. If you go to any American city you will encounter drunks and homeless people and even some drunk and homeless people. In fact many of the American Born Again Christians were drunks, prostitutes, drug addicts, and some even child molesters; before they were saved by Jesus and forgiven for all their filthy sins. I have to clubs all over the United States were drunk people urinate outside under the auspices that no one will see them do this. If you will do a little research, you will see that Christians of today put more time and money into the health and welfare of social outcasts that any other group. That is why the faith-based initiate has had such successful results in the last 8 years. The government agencies can’t do this because their people are paid to do a job whether they care or not. I KNOW Christians care, or they would not do this at all. It is also a fact that the poorer the Christian is in this country, the more he/she gives toward the welfare of others. Although Christians have tried to make might right; killing anyone who is not Christians in their "Holy Wars." These were not Christians that did these things over 1000 years ago. These were Roman Catholics. There is a huge difference, especially in the 11th – 13th centuries. There are still other Faiths in the world; such as Voodoo. In Voodoo you do not have to give up your other religious beliefs; because Voodoo is an ancient, spiritual tolernt religion; it predates Christianity and goes back to the God Vondu and Nzambi in Africa. Vondu is were the word Vodou came from. The purpose of voodoo in an individual life is to gain power over others through inviting evil spirits into the individual – spirits that have the power and nerve to use the body in order to do anything necessary to gain. This demonism leave the person empty, sucked dry of life, a shell. You may have gotten your information from an encyclopedia, but I have diverse personal experience in regard to this. I have seen zombified people and known witch doctors, and many of my family members work for and in Haiti. You at certain Junctures in the United States you can also hear lively wild music, chanting, drums, screeching guitars, and a cacophony of sound; they call them ROCK BANDS, OR RAP GROUPS! They are demonic as well. They are a type of power like voodoo. Most Cobblestone is very old and it has some kind of dirt on it. If you go look at Cobblestone in America I am sure you will find some dirt and grass growing between the Cobblestone. People are not "pitiful" just because they do not think and believe the way you do. You are such a self righteous, back sliding Christian I feel sorry for you. I am not a Christian. My religion is Messianic / Nazarene Israelite. However, I have given 30 years of my life to helping people. Like Barack Obama, I quit a lucrative career early to be a “community organizer” (ie pastor), and have given my life away. You should feel sorry for me maybe, but not for the reasons you say. Maybe you have an inward hatred for Christianity and Christians. Despite what you see or think you see, you should not hate blindly. That is not of you. It is only hurting you. If you get rid of that power over your life, your ministry will be better. I bet known of those pitiful people were looking at you, judging you, are looking down on you; which makes them more Christ like than what you appear to be. Yes, I am the lowest of the low. In the United States they also have wild parties and near naked if not naked people dancing around; they call the "Strip Clubs" and it has nothing to do with religion; just women selling a look at their bodies for money. They also have bloody dead chickens at poultry factories in America. As a Christian, you should have on the whole armor of God and should be able to rebuke or handle anything. I am a messianic. If someone is truly possessed by the devil any average Voodoo believer can usually cast a demon pretty much the way you Christians read about the way Jesus cast the legion of demons out of the man in the bible. No way. They call demons in, not cast them out. I agree with you when you are right, but I can’t agree with you here because of personal experience that would curl your hair. Vodouisants are Catholics and do not worship the devil. They just mix in old African Vestitudes with their worship of God. Most of these are in the bible. Yes, they are Catholics, like I said above. In fact I remember reading in the bible were lambs were sacrificed, the flesh and blood son of God was sacrificed and another prophet was even asked to sacrifice his son; but at the last minute God provided a different sacrifice. The whole reason why you take communion at any Christian Church; is because Jesus was the "human sacrifice for sins of the world" so that Christians may have salvation and go to Heaven. You mean salvation unto the Resurrection of the Dead, don’t you (rather than go to heaven)? Before that Christians were destined for Hell. Which by the way is not the ancient Aramaic place called Sheol; that Abel died and went to and whose blood called to God from the ground the same way Vodouisants call to God for assistance in their daily lives. I call to venerate and show reverence for nature, the LWA (holy Angels). LWA (loa) are demonic spirits. Any Hougan will tell you that. In fact the Vodouisants still use the same word "calling" to describe this process as it was described how the blood of Abel called to God from the ground. This proves to a point that our blood has some spiritual qualities that can speak to God even after our death. The Vodouisants beleive that this spiritual quality that is well documented in the bible when the blood of Abel calls to God for help is actually the LWA that are carried with us through life in our blood and our heads. This is what the Bible calls idolatry from the first page to the last, and you know it. I strongly suggest you do a bit more reading of the bible and a lot less judging everybody else. I have studied scripture almost every day of my life. Please; you read the prophets and the torah regarding idolatry. It will be more tolerable that way for you in the resurrection. Respectfully, You were very disrespectful to me; you don’t even know me. There are respectful ways of making you point without calling names and assuming I am some rich Pharisee. Now, I will be happy to publish this on the appropriate page along with your contact information. I have no doubt others would also like to reply to you, especially those who have giving all their money and blood to Haiti on the field of martyrs. My brother was recently kidnapped and shot 9 times in Haiti. He is a Christian, Maybe you would be interested in checking out his ordeal here: http://jacksonsnyder.com/yah/devo/011306.htm Minister Libby Hodges
When I was 20 years old; I still would have never said the racist ignorant
things that you said. I am 38 now and I sitll would not say those things.
Haiti has not changed much in thirty-five years; maybe you are the one that
has changed. I appreciate that your family helps to build schools and feed
people in Haiti; but do it because they are God's children like you not
because you look down on them and feel sorry for them. I have experienced possession and it was not the devil or demon but a good spirit.
If you do a little Research you will see that Christians put most of the
many into building Mega Churches, and Christian Television and radio
Stations to convert more people into bible thumping Cash Cows. I bet you own
Churches building fund far exceeds any kind of charity. Jesus never had a
mega church. He basically traveled on foot or by donkey feeding the poor and
healing the sick. You say you are a minister; with the rage you express to a stranger, I wonder how you are able to relate to others without eventually going on the attack and destroying them. Please work this stuff out with somebody. You can be a better and more stable person if you will seek the help of Yahweh and someone gifted in the ministry of Restoration. Regarding the postings - my name and family are both well known in Haiti. We live there. Please do post my name this way so the people will know who you are writing about: "Jack Snyder of Mission Possible, Montrouis, Haiti" www.jacksonsnyder.org Maybe some will come to my place and want to discuss these matters with me. Thank you, and best wishes to you and yours. Jack Snyder I
am sorry your family has been victimized as well with the loss of your
brother. I am sorry that you feel that I called you names. I mainly just
interpreted what you said from a different point of view than yours. I did
not mean to be offensive; just to strongly get my point across. Everything I
said is factually correct. Orthodox Vodou is not a religion that worships
the devil. You may have witness some ceremony; but just because people say
they practice the Vodou Faith does not mean they do. You say I am angry; but I am not at all. I am appalled and disgusted that someone who has a doctorate degree can behave in such an ignorant manner and opening insult the religion of others. You are the one that seems to be a bit unstable; and it would not do any good to tell you to work it out with someone; because you are so self righteous you do not even think you have a problem. I suggest you find someone who also has the name Doctor in front of their name; but has a Doctorate of Religious Studies so they can tell you once and for all that the Vodou Faith is not a Devil worshipping Faith. I only said I would post your name and information; because you said you post mine. Which I really do not care if you do or not. Given the fact that your brother was murdered in Haiti; I will have a bit more respect for your families safety than you do; and not post your information as certain people in Haiti appear to already not like your families presence there. You started the diatribe by saying very untrue things about the Vodou Faith and insisting those things are true. I will not waste anymore time trying to talk to you; because you are someone who only believes what you want to believe. You probably went to school not to learn; just to enforce your own thoughts vice learn from the thoughts of others. You maybe 55; but in mind you are still 20 you just repeated being 20 for 35 years. The truth hurts. I have not been abusive to you. You have surrounded yourself with people who think as you do. So when someone has an opinion that is different than yours you think it is abuse.
There is a saying in Japanese "whenever you point the finger at someone
there is always three more pointing back at you." So if you think I am
abusive then you are probably abusive. If you think my history is incorrect;
your history is incorrect. If you think Vodou is demonic then you are
probably demonic. If you think I need some Restorative Ministering; then
more than likely your are in severe need of restorative ministry. Instead of
just living in Haiti; be apart of Haiti. Go to an Orthodox Vodou Temple and
speak with Mambo or Houngan asked them face to face, person to person if
they worship the devil. My advice to you is that you need to leave Haiti
because you have too many bad memories associated with it; and you think the
whole place demonic anyway. Libby, here is a chance for freedom. Nothing can leave out of you unless you affirm in your mind that they must go. Please do and be free of being a slave to foul, cold entities. May Yahshua heal you and set you free. Jack Snyder, Mission Possible, Montrouis HAITI
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